Australian Coat of Arms Dr Brendan Nelson  
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EDITED TRANSCRIPT SPEECH, ADDRESS TO THE AUSTRALIAN ACADEMY OF SCIENCE (National Museum of Australia, Canberra) - 2 May, 2002

BRENDAN NELSON:

Thank you very much, Brian, for that very generous introduction.

Brian and Dianne, Jim and Margie Peacock, I also have the privilege tonight to be in the company of the great Frank Fenner, the Secretary of my Department, Dr Peter Shergold, past presidents of the Academy and many distinguished fellows - and those who aspire to be - and ladies and gentlemen.

Thank you for the privilege of allowing me, firstly, to be here tonight. I feel like an intellectual pygmy in your presence, I (like many Australians) live in awe of what you have done for us, and what you continue to do. So in that sense it's somewhat humbling to be invited to speak to you at your dinner.

I said in my introductory remarks that in a sense, I come here on behalf of many Australians, millions of Australians who can't be here to perhaps say to you in some small way what they would like to say and that is thank you for doing what you have done for us. We highly value it, we may not always understand it, but we certainly understand the importance of it and the difference it has made to our lives.

When you think of one of the criticisms that we often hear of us as a nation - which is certainly justified - that we celebrate our achievements in sport and the arts, which is quite appropriate, but less often do we give the same kind of stature to those of you who have made our lives so much better in the fields of science. We've seven Nobel Prizes. 50 fellows of the Royal Society. You publish 3% of the world's scientific papers. In geosciences, plant and animal sciences we publish 5% of the world's papers. Ecology and environmental science we publish more than 4%. Australian published research in mathematics is cited 17% more than the world average. And if you add to this astrophysics, agricultural science and engineering, and of course medicine: it creates a picture of a country that in science has done far, far more, arguably, than perhaps we have even in the field of sport.

I was thinking earlier this afternoon that I think you of the scientific community, particularly in applied sciences, and engineering and technology, that you suffer in a way from what we, in public life, also suffer from, especially in Government, and that is (for us at least, in Government) that people expect you to get the economy right. They expect you to make sure that the economic indices with which we are given the authority to move - that we get them right. And if you don't get it right you can't expect to be returned to Government. But if you do get it right, people then tend to say to us - well ok, now what are you doing about the real problems?

And I think in a sense, just as an outsider reflecting on the scientific world, that at times you suffer from that too. You find solutions to intractable problems particularly in the applied scientific area, but it's often the things that are done in philosophy and humanities and fine arts and social sciences that define who we are as a people, though scientific effort is often longer remembered in the longer term.

I've said to my colleagues, in relation to the privilege that I have, to be Australia's Minister for Education and Science and Training for the first Government elected for the 21st Century, that we need to understand that the things that will most influence and guide our future are not the things that we know but the things that we don't.

We have crossed a critically important threshold from the 20th to the 21st Century, and whilst it's not expressed in these terms, there are many Australians who have said to themselves in different ways: what should we leave in the 20th Century and, therein, what do we think is important enough to take to the 21st?

I think our real challenge is to take those people who are traditionalists, the people whose values, whose sacrifices, whose hard work and idealism made the country what it is, and reassure them in all kinds of ways. That is the fundamental foundation upon which we build the 21st Century. At the same time, the progressivists who seemingly want economic and cultural change for its own sake, who neither understand, nor at times even care about the values of traditionalists - we need to restrain them to some degree, and the responsibility for those who profess to lead, whether it's the Academy of Science or whether it's in any other professional organisation or indeed in public life, is to bring each of these groups to an understanding of why a change is necessary, and most importantly where we want to go.

By the end of the war the world was marked, as Tony Blair observed, by 100 segmented markets. You think about Australia today, you think about the kind of world we're in now: we're coalescing into 3 major trading blocks, 0.3% of world population, 1% of world trade and 6% of APEC. And the challenges that we have are that the people who might be described as traditionalists, who built Australia in agrarian, land and labour intensive industries, primarily in the exploitation of natural resources in mining and minerals and agriculture, we need to make sure that they understand that this century will be about applying knowledge (and new knowledge in particular) to those traditional industries, as much as it is about supporting new and emerging industries in a moving services sector.

When I had the privilege to go to the Tweed Heads Campus of Southern Cross University three weeks ago to open a new campus there, which I'm sure you are aware is a centre of excellence in information communication technology, interactive video teleconferencing and a range of other new modalities, there were about 50 people there. And I sat there on the stage looking at the crowd, and I was thinking that 100 years before that, we would have been opening a train line, and there probably would have been 2-2500 people there, and they would've been there because they would understand the critical importance to the economic and social development of this country, through the 20th Century, of us constructing that kind of infrastructure.

But what you are doing, particularly for us now, in the 21st Century, and what higher education especially must do for us, is build the equivalent of train lines for the 21st Century. The train lines, the conventional train lines of course continue to be important. But my children are much more likely to be working in the sort of industries that you support and into which you breathe life, than they are those that perhaps are more accustomed to my parents generation, and those who came before.

Within three weeks of being in the portfolio there were a number of things that were clear to me. The first is, that those of you who argue from the higher education sector that there is a crisis, can I just say to you, please desist at that kind of language? And the reason I say that is because there are Australians who are living in parts of this country where entire industries are disappearing, who at times have neither the skills nor indeed the level of education which enables them to deal with that easily.

If you want to see a crisis, have a look at school attendance by Aboriginal Australians in Arnhem Land: 25-54%. If you want to see a crisis in education, consider that only 16 of 378 Aboriginal children outside of Darwin and Alice Springs can pass a basic year 3 reading test. I can take you to kids, in the inner west of Sydney: when Bill Crews of the Exodus foundation isn't feeding the poor or looking after prostitutes or drug addicts (with Macquarie University out the back), he is providing the remedial reading program for children who spent five years in the Australian Education System, who say "Oh, it's the black stuff you read".

Crises or problems that bisect any of us in life, individually or institutionally, are all relative. There are problems in higher education, but can I say that the calls on the basis of "the crisis" have not (as I'm sure you can appreciate) fallen on fertile ground.

But I am convinced that the status quo of Australian universities will not be sustained. Something will change and something will give. And there are a number of things happening in life in two ways. You can either wait until something catastrophic happens and respond to it. The second (which is my preferred approach) is that you can envisage where you want to get, where you want to be, and I suppose it's a sense of vision, it's a campfire around which we should all be sitting. Whatever our politics, whether we're Coalition, Labor, Democrat - whatever your politics is not important in this regard. What's important here is that we need to have a sense of where we want our universities to be 10 or 20 years from now.

I found it rather interesting on the ABC recently to be criticised because I seem to be as concerned about universities a decade or 20 years from now long after I'm out of it, than I am with what's going to happen to them this year or next year. Let's not suggest for one minute that there shouldn't be any sense of immediate concern or interest of what is going on at the moment, but we all have a responsibility, given the critical importance of this sector to the economic and social development of the kind of country my children will be living in, to be thinking now about what are the problems and what policy choices do we have before us as Australians.

The reason why, with the support of the sector and the department, I have progressed the first of what will be a series of six discussion papers and put together a Reference Group which will culminate at the years end with the development of a package of measures I intend to take to my colleagues for their consideration, is because there are fundamental questions that have got to be addressed. Of course, everybody argues that universities need more money. I hear that. I hear it. But we've got some fundamental questions. What is a university? What defines a university? It might sound philosophical in part, but there is a practical application to that as well. To what extent is scholarship, research and teaching critically important to defining a university and what extent should each be a partner? Who goes to university and why are they going there? Where have we got attrition rates and why do we have them? (And we've got some research on that.) Why can't we have more specialisation in the sector? Why do we, the Commonwealth Government, run the funding system which encourages universities to be all things to all people, and how can we encourage specialisation without financial penalty to institutions? Why is it that we've got 20,000 units on offer with less than five enrolees - and 4,200 with only one?

But they're just some of the things that have got to be addressed. What is it, culturally in our country, and in terms of tax law, which militates against private sector investment in university infrastructure? And if we move further into commercialisation and intellectual property and science, engineering, technology and applied sciences, what's the future then for humanities, fine arts, philosophy, literature and language?

I was asked yesterday by the Australian Financial review whether I supported elitism, and I said of course I support elitism. I support the idea of (whether it's individuals or institutions) pursuing excellence based on idealism, hard work and self-sacrifice. My children will not ever win a gold medal in swimming, but I can tell you every time they jump into a swimming pool, they get reassurance from knowing that there are Australians like them who reasonably aspire to do so.

We should do everything we can to see that we have a policy, and a funding paradigm which might reasonably enable one or two institutions, as distinct from individual parts of them to aspire to be in the top 50 or 100, however you get it, and the reason for putting that into the public arena was twofold. The first, was so that the average, everyday Australian, who's looking for footy results in the tabloids is able to say with some concern to his or her mate, "gee I'm a bit worried that Australia can't even get a university in the top 50", because then that focuses the people who decide who will govern them on the importance of the university sector. That's why that's important.

The second reason why it's important is because if we want to bring, not only people in the sector, but my colleagues and others in the Federal Parliament, to an understanding of why it's important we reform policy in this area, we need to understand that we will never deliver a top 50 institution if we continue with the status quo. I won't go on further about university reform tonight, but they are just some of the things that need to be addressed, and the reason they need to be addressed is because the kind of world, the kind of standard of living my children will reasonably expect to enjoy will be determined by what happens in terms of policy in higher education over the next year or so, and we have a small window of opportunity to do something.

The last point that I would like to speak on briefly is to priority setting in science. The real world political issues, the things that are most concerning Australians in my portfolio are in two areas in schools - who's teaching my kids, what are they being taught, are they actually coming out the other end of the system being able to read, write, count and communicate, and what sort of values underwrite the education they're getting. The other side of the equation for the everyday Australian is training and apprenticeships, and if either my son or daughter gets an apprenticeship, do they have reasonable training options? But I've been saying to the audiences to whom I've been speaking, that the real policy issues in this portfolio at the moment are in universities and they're in science.

The main agenda, I believe in science is priority setting, and Minister McGauran and I jointly made an announcement today. We've got $4.7 billion of public funds which go to all kinds of angles into research, and there is a decision by the Cabinet to set priorities in science.

Now you know much more about science than I will ever know, but this has enormous potential. If we get this right, we actually have the potential to even more effectively leverage what you have already done for us in the fields of science, in terms of our economic, our social and our cultural development, but if we get it wrong my children and indeed the generation after that will pay a good price for it.

Within the next few weeks, a paper will be published which will canvas the issues that relate to research priority setting as we see them from the perspective of Government. Robin Batterham - the Chief Scientist, of course - he will chair a consultative panel that will meet with representative groups to discuss the issues and seek nominations for priorities.

In late June Robin will report back to me and to the Prime Minister and to Minister McGauran and we'll go to the Cabinet on progress that's been made through those consultations.

The finalised framework in priority setting will be released in mid to late July, after which there'll be written nominations for priorities and they'll continue to be taken until mid-August and this is to allow, obviously, individuals and organisations time to adjust to their nominations as the process unfolds.

Following that an advisory committee will be established at the end of August to assess the nominated priorities and then I'll take a short list to Cabinet in late September.

And once Cabinet has determined a final list and brought guidelines for implementation, relevant agencies will be asked to develop their own specific implementation plans, and that will be by the end of December, and I'll expect that I'll take the final position back to Cabinet in February of next year.

The debate that's going on is that there are some people who say well - we should get these scientists and tell them to spend our money on these things, "a, b, c" and there are other who say, well, I think we should think about the thematic priorities for Australia. And I just say to you that there's legitimacy in each of these arguments, but I am a very strong advocate of thematic priorities. We should have a vision of where we want Australia to be, economically, scientifically, technologically, socially, culturally and also (inaudible).

Five or ten years from now, it might be (for example) that we want Australia to be environmentally sustainable - that we choose not to live on environmental capital, but instead interest. And then having set a priority like that, for example, we then decide what kind of areas do we want to put our research effort into. And as a part of this process I have insisted that humanities and social sciences be involved in the priority setting process, which, in the first instance, in outcomes, will probably involve science, engineering, technology, and then move on to humanities and social sciences afterwards. The reason for that is that as important and as complex what you do in applied science is, it's how we use knowledge that ultimately determines our destiny as a people - how we relate to one another and see our place in the world.

So I implore you, I know I don't need to, but I do implore you to do everything you can to be engaged in this process and to see that we end up with an outcome which serves the interests of our country and whatever the final outcome of this is, that we do something which in no way threatens to damage our future.

I say to young people that when Kennedy was President of the United States he said that the real struggles for our generation are against tyranny, disease, poverty and war. And if you put that into a group of 15 year olds, or thereabouts, and ask them to reflect on that, of course they say well it's not much different today. And what you do, you find solutions to some of those - well in fact all of those - four challenges in different ways. The solution, too, whether it was Kennedy's generation, or the problems and the struggles that face our generation, lies in what Thomas Jefferson said.

He said "education is the defence of the nation" because it is that more than anything else, which will protect the next generation from prejudicial fear and ignorance of things that perhaps we don't always understand, and not only to accept but to drive the change which we as human beings fear so much in a world where we can simply no longer hide from the winds of competition and globalisation.

So thank you very much for having me here this evening. I consider it a great privilege to be your Minister. The Secretary and I will do the very, very best we can to juggle your needs and your priorities with those of the broader Australian community.

 

 

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