Australian Coat of Arms Dr Brendan Nelson  
Australian Government Minister for Education
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EDITED TRANSCRIPT OF SPEECH, ADDRESS TO THE NATIONAL PRESS CLUB, CANBERRA, 8 May, 2002

BRENDAN NELSON:

Good afternoon and, thank you Ken. Thank you to the members of the National Press Club, Professor Chris Fells, Professor David Denham, Professor Rob Morris - all from the Federation of Australian Scientific and Technical societies. Dr Hugh Bradlow, thank you to Telstra and especially my colleagues and my friends, Science Minister - Minister Peter McGauran, the member for Eden Monaro and the Chair of the newly established House of Representatives Standing Committee on Innovation, Gary Nairn, Helen Cross - the member for Molonglo, and most importantly - members of FASTS and ladies and gentlemen.

For those Australians, who are watching this today on television from their homes and workplaces throughout the country, as this broadcast proceeds you will see that the television cameras will pan around the room, and I want you to know that the men and women that you will see here today, who largely come from different threads of Australia's scientific and educational communities, are men and women whose heritage that they nurture on a day to day basis and which they also protect includes 7 Nobel Prizes, 50 Fellows of the Royal Society, these people publish on our behalf 3% of the world's scientific papers, though we're only 0.3% of world population. They publish 5% in geosciences in plant and animal sciences, in ecology and environment and further to that in mathematics, Australian scientists are cited 17% more than their colleagues throughout the world, and that of course is before we even begin to think about astrophysics and medicine.

There are a number of challenges that have been set this morning throughout a conference that has been held here today and they include that we should encourage more young people to pursue careers in science, that we should increase the levels of scientific literacy, that our children must be equipped to adjust to accelerating technological change, to understand that 80% of the jobs, it is argued, that will exist a decade from now, currently do not exist. And that school science teachers must be more closely engaged with the new directions and applications in which their disciplines are moving, and there has been much more. The thematic realisation that I think comes to me, if not many other Australians that emerges from this which we must begin to understand, if not adjust, is that the haves and have not's, if that's how you wish to describe people, of tomorrow will be differentiated less by birth, inheritance, religion, or indeed by good fortune, but instead increasingly by what they can and cannot do with their minds. In a prescient address to Harvard University in September 1943 Winston Churchill said that the "empires of the future would be empires of the mind", and it was a year later here in Canberra that the founder of the Liberal of Australia, Sir Robert Menzies to the founding organisations that came to establish the Liberal Party of Australia said, in part, "to every good citizen, the state owes not only a chance in life, but a self-respecting life". In those two statements by two statesmen from different parts of the world, a year apart, it's that as much as anything that will inform what the Government, and I as I am privileged to have the portfolio of Education, Science and Training, that will inform what we do with policy over the period that I have the privilege to be in this position.

I said to the Academy of Science at a dinner on Thursday night here in Canberra, that I am privileged to represent the electorate of Bradfield, in Sydney. It's on Sydney's upper north shore, my electorate - the people whom I represent are amongst the most highly educated and affluent, throughout the country, though certainly not universally so. Most of the people that I represent want Australia to be a republic, they also see Australia in every economic and cultural sense as being a part of the rest of the world, they readily embrace the share market, and when they write to me about information technology issues - it is usually to complain about slow internet access.
But I say to them, as I've said to people in other parts of the country, that the further you go from the Opera House, the further you go from the Melbourne Arts Centre, into the outer suburbs of our large cities, into some of the regions of Australia, with which Gary Nairn is very familiar, and most of rural Australia. You will find that there are many Australians who feel a sense of educational, technological and financial detachment about which they feel a deep sense of concern, if not insecurity. Australia has change vastly, along with the rest of the world from the time that Winston Churchill went to Harvard, or Robert Menzies founded the Liberal Party in Australia. And if you think about those changes they are essentially that Australia, which had been built in agrarian, land and labour intensive industries, predominantly in the exploitation of natural resources, now finds itself increasingly, along with other developed countries, that not only do those traditional commodities form the economic and social base of Australia today, and we add value to them, in Science which is a key part of our challenges to which I'll refer shortly. But increasingly we deal with the merging industries, in knowledge and information, in education and biotechnologies and a whole variety of industries that which they now are, that perhaps only a generation ago, we could have only dreamed. When you think, for example, that education at $4.1 billion earns as much for Australia as wheat, and more than wool - it should inform us to some extent, why people in rural and regional Australia have been somewhat concerned about some of the changes which they have seen in their country.

One of my constituents sent me a book just before Christmas in 1997 entitled "Revelation", by a German physicist and philosopher called Bernhard Philberth - which is more of a career combination I think we should be encouraging. It's a fairly heavy theological read about change, how people manage and effect change individually and institutionally and Philberth said "Progress leads to chaos if not anchored in tradition. Tradition becomes rigid if it does not prepare the way for progress. But a perverted traditionalism and a misguided progressivism propel each other toward a deadly excess, hardly leaving any ground between them." And I think it's a very good summary about where our country has been, as it has passed over the critical threshold from the 20th to the 21st Century, to traditionalists whose values, and sacrifices and damned hard economic work made the country what it is, particularly in mining, manufacturing and agriculture, seriously question whether the 21st Century will be built on the things that are most important to them, and they should be reassured that it will. And equally at the other end, the progressivists - perhaps one or two of whom are in my own electorate, who are seen at times to want economic and cultural change for its own sake, perhaps not always understanding, nor worse still even respecting the values of the traditionalists. What we need to do in thinking about our future, we need to understand that we have to bring people with us, including traditionalists in relation to policy in education, and universities in particular, if we are at the same time, able to restrain some of the progressivists who promote some extremely radical thinking.

There are two photographs in my office that inform what I will seek to do in this portfolio, on your behalf. The first is a black and white photograph which is the size of the Telstra Address banner which is hanging at the rear of this room, and it is a photograph of the late Neville Bonner. Bonner, of course, was the first Aboriginal Australian elected as a Liberal Queensland Senator to Federal Parliament, but that is not why it is there. It is there because Bonner was born on a Government blanket on Eucabar Island in the mouth of the Tweed River, his mother was not allowed to have a birth in the city, because it was after dark and she was an Aboriginal woman. Bonner was denied an education, south of Lismore because the non-Indigenous parents did not like the idea of him being at the school. He then finally had a year of education and did three classes in one year at Beau Desert school, and before he died, he said that his grandmother had played a key role in his life, and she said to him that if he learned to read and write and communicate and treated people with respect and decency, it would take him a long way, and it did. Just before he arrived in the Federal Senate, he said of his experience of this world that there were two things that were always in greater need - one was human compassion and the other was understanding. That photograph sits right in front of my desk.

The other photograph, which is a more recent one, which sits immediately behind my desk, is a photograph of me with a young woman called Tara Thompson. Tara Thompson left school, a place called Hallet Cove in the southern suburbs of Adelaide at the age of 14 having missed 33 of the last 50 days of her schooling, and she was picked up having had all sorts of personal hassles (I won't describe exactly what she said to me when she spoke), but she was picked up by the Hallet Cove Youth Pathways program, for which Geoff Spring (who is here today) should take some credit, which is run along with Commonwealth and State programs in the southern suburbs of Adelaide. The reason her photograph is there, is because having got through a whole lot of personal adversities, different in many ways from, but still similar in others to those that were faced by Bonner, she'd done a first aid certificate of which she is as proud as I am of my medical education, to which Professor Ian Chubb contributed, and also she is now undertaking a TAFE course and she said that it "put my life back on track". She said "I would have been a bum without it".

Our vision of education and of training should be, that it's something that begins not long after we are born and it continues throughout our lives, that all people, young and not so young, but in this case in particular, our children, should be encouraged to understand the importance of education and training, and the difference between the two, and the importance of the difference. We encourage them to remain at school for as long as they are able, to understand that the education will provide them with resilience for life, and a part of that resilience in acquiring skills is to realise that those skills will have a limited life and they need to be upgraded, or indeed changed,as I'm sure Steve Balzary would have spoken to you about earlier this morning.

We want all Australians to see universities and higher education as a part of their life horizon, in terms of their educational and career choices and to understand the importance that a university education confers which is not only an economic one. But equally, for the Tara Thompsons and others throughout Australia, the 70% of kids who do not go immediately from school to higher education, that when they make choices, that they understand they have a choice, and they make choices in apprenticeships and traineeships or to go to TAFE, or to undertake training with a private vocational education and training provider, that any one of those choices does not mean that their lives and their career and educational choices confer on them a value as human beings that is less important than those that go to university. One of the things that I think all of us need to understand, if not as parents, as educators or those of us who would like to be, is that one of the problems with our modern society, despite the fact per capita wealth in this country is five times higher than it was when Henry Parkes gave the Tenterfield oration over a century ago, and perhaps we're not five times as happy. One of the things we need to understand is that the next generation is still very much tethered to a value system that says that if they work hard, they should do better than their parents' generation, and a part of that is that often, as parents, or as society or policy makers, we tell young Australians in all kinds of ways that success is measured in narrow terms, that it's a mobile phone, fashionable clothes, outstanding result in your year 12, and a BMW. And in some way if you don't aspire to those things, or indeed achieve any or all of them, that in some way you have failed. If scratch away the surface of the kids that we're picking up in our New Apprenticeships Access Programs or any one of a range of things that are trying to re-engage young people and boys in particular, with education and training, you will find that one of the things is that they work out before us, that they are being forced at times to do things to which in their hearts they feel they are not suited.

For a scientific audience in particular, it doesn't just apply in terms of apprenticeship or university choices. Max Plank won the Nobel Prize for physics in 1918. The physicists amongst you know precisely what I'm talking about. In later life, Plank recalled that as a young man in 1874 at the age of 16 he'd been encouraged away from physics towards biology by his teacher Phillip von Jolly, and Plank said and I quote "As I was beginning to study physics and sought advice regarding the prospects of my studies from my eminent teacher, he depicted physics as a highly developed and virtually full grown science which would soon assume its stable form, perhaps in this or that corner there would still be some minor detail to check out and co-ordinate, but the system as a whole stood relatively secure, and theoretical physics was fast approaching that degree of completeness with geometry for example which had already achieved for hundreds of years.

And of course it was 26 years later in 1900 that Max Plank introduced a new formula into physics - Plank's Law - from which the whole of quantum physics would subsequently be derived and which revolutionised our understanding of the world and to which today we owe the invention of the transistor, the laser, the personal computer, the CD player, the mobile phone, the internet and so many other extraordinary pieces of technology which have changed our lives.

One of the key areas for policy reform in this term of Government, I believe as the Minister, should be in higher education. That is not for one minute to assume that the Government feels that its tasks in standards of teaching and curriculum development and professional development in schools is finished, in fact far from it. Nor is it to suggest that in some way, national consistency of training packages and contestable markets and putting more vocational education and training into schooling is in anyway finished - far from it. But the sort of society in which my children will be living, will be determined not by the things that we know, but by the things that we don't.

It's interesting - when I had the privilege to open the Tweed Heads Campus of the Southern Cross University about three weeks ago, I made an observation to the audience of 60 or so that were there, the campus of course specialises in information, communication technology and interactive video teleconferencing and other pieces of technology especially important in the regions. I made the observation that a century ago, we would have been opening train lines and there probably would, even a century ago, have been at least 2,000 people there, because that generation of Australians understood, as indeed does the current one, the importance of rail infrastructure for the economic and social development of Australia through the 20th Century. But right along transport infrastructure today, in fact some would argue even ahead of it in importance, the rail lines for the 21st Century are predominantly in education, in information, and especially (I believe) in higher education. The reason why universities need to undertake reform is not because there is some predetermined agenda, to which I have been given to implement, it is not about - so much - what will happen in Australian universities next year, but it's about how will Australian higher education serve the interests of Australia, a decade or two decades from now. Do we have a policy framework which will deliver the ambitions that we have, and I suggest to you that we do not.

I said to the Academy of Science on Thursday night, whilst I understand that people in the sector speak of a crisis, of crises, I just repeat again, the university sector has $20 billion of fixed assets available to it, $4.4 billion in liquid assets, $10.4 billion in revenues this year - almost $2 billion increase over the past 5 years. The borrowings of the sector at $426 million which is 2% of asset value. That is not to suggest in any way that there aren't problems, and indeed in a relative sense serious problems facing the higher education sector, I wouldn't be here talking to you today if I didn't think there were problems to be addressed. But higher education disengages itself from where the average everyday Australian is, when it speaks about a crisis. The people whose hard work funds the $6.1 billion of public funds going into universities this year, it's frequently removed from low incomes, from small business people working their tails off to survive, who are living in parts of Australia where entire industries have changed, where in the process of change many people have found themselves displaced from work and retraining, partly due to your hard work, I might add, for new careers. If you want to talk about a crisis, I would suggest that for a start, where only a quarter of Aboriginal Australians in some parts of Arnhem Land attend school, I put that in the crisis category. When only 16 of 378 Aboriginal kids outside Darwin or Alice Springs can pass a basic year 3 reading test, I put that in the crisis category. And then I come back from there and the first constituent I see is outraged because his son couldn't get a place in Veterinary Science and has to satisfy himself with engineering. Now that's not to trivialise the concerns of any of us, or our ambitions for our children, but please when you talk about crises put it in some perspective. You want to go to the inner west - the Exodus Foundation where Reverend Bill Crews, when he's not looking after prostitutes, feeding the poor or trying to keep drug addicts alive, with Macquarie University out the back of the church is making up time in lost literacy. When a kid can spend 5 years in the education system and says "Oh, it's the black stuff you read", I put that in the crisis category. I do not put the issues facing Australian higher education in the crisis category, but neglectful indifference today will mean that a decade or so from now, the next generation may well be describing it in those terms. The issues are how do we define a university?

Allan Gilbert told me that for the first 800 years, universities didn't do research, now the last thing we want to do is go back to the future, but to what extent does research, scholarship and teaching define a university? And what kinds of research is appropriate to be undertaken in different kinds of institutions? University of New England doing outstanding research in rural futures, in wool, in beef. Charles Sturt University, outstanding research in dairy production and in wine manufacturing and exporting, critically important not just to Australia, but for the regional, economic development, but there are other forms of research that go on throughout the sector. One Vice Chancellor said to me, in criticising a fellow institution, he said "They're not very good there - they spend too much time on teaching", well I've got to say to you on behalf of the Australians who are not here, but the Australian students who are wanting to go to Australian universities, they place a higher priority on teaching. Universities should be about scholarship and teaching and research, but I think increasingly we need to - perhaps - be thinking about those whose needs we're endeavouring to meet. Who is going to university and why do they go there? Why is it that attrition rates for indigenous students, for example, are approaching 60%. Where have we got attrition rates and why do we have them? We know that four out of ten don't complete, one of those four comes back to it. Why is it that half of the three who never complete leave in the first year, why do they leave? If we can even deal with a part of that demand problem we'll have additional places already for the 52,000 who didn't get a place this year. We need to look at governance and administration, how are the institutions governed and managed? Are those structures appropriate for the 21st Century when you're running a $3 - 400 million operation? They are issues for which States and Territories are responsible. The last thing that any State Minister wants is the Commonwealth to tell him or her what to do, but I believe as Australians whatever our politics or the jurisdiction of our Government, it is time to look at the governance arrangements and other issues with a view to saying - is this the best model for servicing the interests of higher education? I also think the Commonwealth department, and I mean this affectionately to my Secretary, Dr Shergold who is an outstanding public servant, but I think the extent to which we regulate universities, the way in which we require endless amount of reporting and accounting and data collection, I remain to be convinced that it is all necessary. That the universities themselves should be spending more of that effort on teaching and research, and less on reporting to our Commonwealth educational politbureau.

The commercialisation of intellectual property in the sector, in some institutions is done exceedingly well, that cannot be said universally throughout it. One of the things I am determined to drive out of this is to see that we have a sound policy framework for commercialising ideas and researchers, as much as universities should have some equity in that intellectual property, and I'd also add that one of the things we should be thinking about is to what extent can we link revenue streams from commercialising intellectual property and science engineering and technology to supporting humanities, fine arts, philosophy, language and literature and all of the things that, ultimately, define who we are as a society. Further to that I would also suggest to you, in us thinking about the public policy debate, if we can get more private sector or industry investment in university infrastructure, and indeed in commercialising intellectual property in areas that find it easy to attract it, I'd suggest to you we might then have some public funds available to support those areas in humanities and social sciences that are just so important to defining our future.

The other problem that I see which is fundamental to the reform process is specialisation. I think that at the moment we are running a funding and a policy framework which encourages, doesn't discourage universities, but encourages universities to be all things to all people. To run a smorgasbord for everybody, instead of (shall I say) a more defined a la carte menu for the particular market need, that needs to be met. One university runs 167 courses, 96 of the courses have less than 5 students enrolled. 20% of the units on offer in Australian higher education have fewer than 5 enrolees, 4,200 have only 1, in some cases there are very good arguments for that, but is it possible for us to create a funding framework which puts a floor under regional universities, which meets the funding obligations to their complex and onerous community service obligations, at the same time as facilitating course rationalisation and collaboration between universities so that you can enrol in one institution and do, for example, 30% of your course work through another institution. So, in other words, not reducing funding at all. In fact I would argue, actually making it easier to deliver need at the same point as having a degree of deregulation which might enable one or two institutions to aspire reasonably to be in the top league table, however that might reasonably be defined.

The last, but certainly not in terms of importance, issue that I just want to cover before I conclude. This is not an issue which is on the front page of the newspapers, not even the broadsheets, which surprises me. Perhaps Michelle might change that. It is priority setting in science. We have been going through a process in Government, Minister McGauran and myself and my colleagues, looking at the $4.7 billion of public funds which supports research in Australia, and we are looking at a process for setting priorities in research and the Cabinet has agreed to the release of an issues paper which will be released shortly, and that issues paper, that discussion paper will inform what will be a process of public engagement and discussion, headed principally by Minister McGauran over the rest of this year. The issues paper will look at philosophical and practical issues, the Chief Scientist - Robin Batterham and a consultative panel will canvas the views of you and many others throughout the Australian community and seek nominations for priorities in research, we expect by the end of June that the Chief Scientist will report to Minister McGauran, myself and the Prime Minister and we will go to Cabinet and then following in mid-July we're expecting that we will release a finalised framework for priority setting with further written nominations that will be received

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priorities and I will take a short list of those priorities to Cabinet and once a final list has been determined with guidelines for implementation, the relevant agencies will be asked to develop their own implementation plans.

There are some key questions that need to be asked, what are Australia's areas of strength, of opportunity and of need, secondly how might priorities be implemented without disruptive intervention, with disruption of management or indeed management complexity or indeed with unrealistic haste? How do we integrate science, engineering and technology with social sciences and humanities in a research priority setting process? And I see this as a great opportunity. We have an opportunity through Government and through you, through the Prime Minister, in particular to get this right, and to make an enormous investment that will pay off for the next generation. But if we don't get this right, we potentially could also do a great deal of harm. I see this as an opportunity for us to embrace a vision of where want Australia to be, where to we want Australia to be placed, economically, environmentally, culturally - five or ten or even fifteen years from now, and then perhaps set research priorities that would deliver that outcome. For example, a priority could be, enabling a sustainable environment - it could be a theme. There is a debate for example - should we put our research priorities into specific disciplines or instead should we be putting our research priorities into two, three, four or five themes for the future. I'm arguing, as best I am able, that I think we ought to be thinking about both. That we can set thematic priorities for our country which then feed very much, into a discipline specific priority setting process. So if we had, for example, looking at Australia having a sustainable environment - if that was a theme with a policy objective that development should aim to meet the needs of Australians today, whilst conserving our eco-systems for the benefit of future generations. In other words, that we might set a priority that sees us living on environmental interest instead of capital, then we would be looking at dry land salinity, efficient and renewable energy sources, managing eco-systems, sustainable production for example. The sort of disciplines that then might be involved in priority setting would be biotechnology, mathematics, informatics, environmental engineering, social and water science, geoscience, fuel engineering and of course social sciences. How do we as human beings adapt to the priorities that we might have set for ourselves as a nation?

So, I suppose in concluding, what we're talking about is a revolution of the sort that was referred to by JJ Thompson in 1916, who of course discovered the electron, and there needs to be a revolution in our understanding of the role of science and technology research in shaping the future of this nation. We understood it in relation to rail lines for the 20th Century, we still understand that very much today, but all of us - it doesn't matter where live, where we work, what our aspirations are in education or anything else - we need to understand that our children will not only be working in areas based, as I say, in the exploitation of natural resources but they will also increasingly be working with their minds, as much as their hands.

In concluding I just remind you that Thomas Jefferson was the third President of the United States of America, Jefferson was asked what were the three things for which he wanted to be remembered, and put on his gravestone. He said that the first was co-authoring the American Declaration of Independence, the second was the Virginia Statute for religious freedom, and the third - the founding of the University of Virginia. When asked why that would be the case, he said because "Education is the defence of the nation", what will defend my children most against prejudicial fear and ignorance of change. In fact what will enable them most to drive change in a world that's coalescing into three major trading blocks, when we represent only 1% of world trade and 6% of APEC is education. That is the key, and my task is to convince you to help me convince my colleagues that education is very much an investment and perhaps not an expenditure, thank you.

 

 

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